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It sat around for about five years until Ken Mellons recorded it on his Epic album,
then seven years later Gretchen Wilson asked Ken if he had any songs to pitch
to her and he gave her his two albums. The rest is history, that's how Gretchen
found the song, cut it and put it on her current 'All Jacked Up' album. Potentially,
my biggest cut to date all came from an hour and a half of writing and a half
hour in the studio. Go figure. But having said that, those quickly written songs
that have had any success have been few and far between for me. As far as pulling
them out an inch at a time stories, I have too many of those to tell, but one
thing is for sure, when you know it's a worthwhile idea, I feel a good writer
is one who is driven to stick with it, not sell out because it's not coming easily,
then re-write if it's still not there, and never give up on it until it is as
good as he or she can make it. Sometimes it's a long and frustrating process but
a rewarding one. Jana:
Your first song topic was about the Vikings landing in Newfoundland, Canada.
Over the years, have you found matters of the heart to be your most inspirational
or successful? Cyril:
Yes, I think you have to write about something that is of interest to the masses
and something that everyone can relate to and is affected by everyday and what
bigger issue in people's lives is there than love and relationships. We never
tire of hearing about someone being touched by love whether it's a child, parent,
friend or lover, whether it's a tragedy or a miracle. I guess we look at how that
differs to, or parallels our own lives, and it affects us by arousing our inner
feelings and makes it personal and in some way the song becomes about us and we
feel the pain, happiness or tragedy of the song. You have to pull the listener
in and keep them there for three minutes and then make them want to come back
and hear it again. You can only write so many songs about my old yellow car, or
about a gambler (both great songs) but once you've heard those stories, you've
heard them, especially when written as well as those two songs were written. On
the other hand, there are so many emotions stirred up when we talk about love,
life and relationships and how the way someone acts or what they say to that other
person can bring to the surface how fragile and vulnerable we all are, so when
written with care, a new story is born.
Jana: Your writing career has spanned decades. How have changes in your
life changed your writing? Cyril: I hope the one thing that I have
learned from writing hundreds of songs over the past 25 years or so is, to only
write about something compelling enough that after you labour over it, then re-write,
and then re-write again has the potential to be a great song with the capability
of touching a lot of people time and time again and no matter how many times you
listen to it, still feels fresh and still moves you. When you've done that then
you know you've done your job and written something worthwhile. Those songs stand
up and speak for themselves and eventually after many years of writing I found
that when I would go into my catalogue to pitch songs to artists I absolutely
knew why some songs jumped out at me and the diddy's fell victim to the FF button.
I guess my writing has evolved with years of just doing it, in a word, experience.
Jana: Who was/were the most inspirational to you, your music and how? Cyril:
I guess my parents were my first influence, they owned and operated a music
store and I started working there in sales and teaching guitar while in school
and started playing in local bands. I went on to manage one of the stores after
high school but I wasn't cut out for retail and had to move on but I think when
they introduced me to music they stirred an interest in me that became the main
focus in my life to this day. After that, I had lots of heroes from Jerry Reed
to The Eagles and on and on, my influences changed as I grew.
Jana: They say, you can't write what you don't know. How much of your songs
are a product of your imagination and not your experience. Cyril:
I think it's a mixture in most cases. I think every writer has to have an active
imagination but I want the story to be believable and one that somewhere in the
world is probably happening to someone right now. It doesn't have to be me and
rarely is, so I try to imagine that if I was the person in the situation, how
I would feel and react to it. I certainly don't sit down and try to write songs
about my own life, they would be way too boring.
Jana: Being honest, what is your worst song topic? Cyril:
Topics or ideas that have no real meat to them but for some reason get written
over and over, like we've never heard that idea in a song before. Or, redneck
songs with corny titles like "Billy's got his beer goggles on" and last but not
least, those novelty songs that are supposed to be funny but aren't. Really, how
many times can you laugh at the same joke.
Jana: Is there one song, yours or that of another artist, that sums
up who you are, or how you view your life? Okay, put it this way. What songs would
you want played at your funeral ? Cyril: Just make them all mine,
and make sure a SOCAN rep is there logging it.
Jana: Did you have any surprise hits? Cyril: Any hits
I have had were a surprise. Seriously though, I knew I had a shot with songs like
"From Zero To Sixty", "I Read Lips" and "Lying Here With You" (Thomas Wade and
Wayward), "Something Undeniable", "What's Not to Love", "Better Off Broken", "Cool
Summer Night" (Lisa Brokop). I also thought I had a shot with "Keep Mom And Dad
In Love" with Lisa and Hal Ketchum, but it didn't even make the top 10, or my
single with Keith Urban and the Ranch called "Just Some Love", he changed labels
just after it was released and the song was history within a couple of weeks.
So you can never count on anything, politics and factors far beyond our control
can change the course of a potential hit so they are all surprises when they happen,
in my mind. Now Johnny Reid's next single that I wrote with him called "Time Flies"
to me is a potential hit for him but all I can do is wait and see how it plays
out. I have however, had some great cuts that were surprises, like my song "Secret"
on Reba's last album. I dropped a copy off the day I left Nashville in a drop
box on Buddy's Cannon's front porch and got a call the day after I arrived back
in Peterborough that Reba was cutting it the following Monday, which she did and
the album just went platinum. My Gretchen cut was another fairy tale story with
her finding it herself on a Ken Mellons album, that doesn't happen every day believe
me.
Jana: If you knew then what you know now, how would you guide
your career differently? Cyril: I would spend more time schmoozing…I
hate it though, much rather be writing but I've seen what it has done for other
writers and I should have balanced my career a little better that way. P.S. I
always wanted to be a better writer than schmoozer anyway. Jana:
If you were asked to teach a course on songwriting, what would be your top
3 do's and don'ts. Cyril: Use and trust your imagination and emotions
first, then balance it off with the craft. Get your thoughts and feelings out
on paper and then step back, look at it again and let the craft of songwriting
step in when you rewrite but DON'T rewrite until you write yourself right out
of the song, learn when to be satisfied that the song is finished. Listen to hits
and try to figure out why they were hits but DON'T try to write that same idea,
find an idea that has as powerful a meaning or groove or whatever but make it
your own, remember you heard that other hit and so did millions of other people
so it's old news. Write up, in other words try to surround yourself with writers
that in your mind can teach you or help you in your weakest area and yet still
compliment what you do best. If you are a lyricist first then find a great melody
writer to work with, if you do both equally well in your mind, write with someone
who has had some commercial success writing for a variety of artists, not just
themselves, writers whose songs have reached a lot of ears in the industry and
still had success. DON'T settle for mediocrity and DON'T after writing your first
few songs think you know it all, you DON'T. Of course, learn the basics of rhythm,
rhyme, format, melody, etc. first.
Jana: Tell us about your current
projects. Cyril: Same as last year, try like hell to write a hit
and have fun doing it because the fun may be all I get out of it, unless of course
Lady Luck smiles on me, and if she does and opportunity knocks, it's up to me
to have the goods.
Jana: A great many artist say their favorite
song is the one they just finished, which means, they believe, they get better
and better. If you looked back at your earlier writing , how would you critique
it? How would you change it? Cyril: I made all the mistakes a new
writer makes, boring subject matter, diddy's, songs that resembled something else,
like the old saying " I heard it, I liked it, so I wrote it". Being afraid to
be original and not being sensible enough to know that what people want to hear
is something they can relate to, not something that only means something to me
personally, and realizing there is nothing wrong with the word commercial when
it comes to writing songs, as long as they are good. There are very few songs
that reach #1 status that are not commercially written songs. But having said
that, I went through what I had to, kind of going to school and I think every
writer has to go to school in a sense and develop at their own pace and in their
own way and the ones who are not dedicated fall by the wayside and give up. I
didn't so, I wouldn't change a thing.
Jana:
Is there anything you would change in the music industry if you could
and why? Cyril: Ban those redneck songs, I know, I know, it's not
going to happen. Somehow convince people to buy more records, and that's a tough
one too, but most of all find a way to give new artists a better shot. The internet
is helping in some cases but it would be nice if radio stepped up to the plate
and contributed a little, now I'm really dreaming.
Jana:
How do you think today's music reflects our culture? Cyril:
I think as it always has, we write about what is around us and affecting our
lives at the time, during the Second World War for example, all those great songs
that became standards were written to pump up people's spirits, give them hope
and inspiration and a little laughter in a period when there wasn't much to laugh
about and I think today just as they did, we write about our current day to day
life styles and values, like after 9-11, look at all the patriotic songs that
were written, we're just reacting to the times
Cyril
started out as a session guitarist in Toronto in the 1970's as well as performing
regularly with the television shows The Harry Hibbs Show and Ray Griff's Goodtime
Country show. He continued to write and was signed to Nashville publisher Millhouse
Music in 1987 as a staff writer. A year later, he moved to Glen Campbell Music
where he met and wrote with Alan Jackson, another writer signed there at the time.
In 1991 Cyril moved to Balmur Ent. as a staff writer and by the time he left in
1999 he had over 200 songs recorded in Canada and over 26 in the US. He has won
the CCMA's Indie Song of the Year Award twice (Lying Here with You, Something
Undeniable) as well as being nominated for SOCAN Song of the Year with "Zero to
Sixty" recorded by Thomas Wade in 1997 at the CCMA's. He has also enjoyed hit
status in the U.S. with "Do You Wanna Kiss" a.k.a. "You Go First" recorded by
Jessica Andrews on Dreamworks records in 1999.
Cyril has been writing
as an independent writer with his own Rawsong Music Publishing company for the
past five years and moved back to Canada in 2003 yet continues to travel to Nashville
every six weeks to write and co write. Cyril is also an active producer both in
Canada and the US and has produced over 800 demos in Nashville for several companies
including Anne Murray's Balmur Ent. and Balmur/Corus, producing co-writer demos
for Lisa Brokop/Michelle Wright, Thomas Wade/ Richie McDonald (Lonestar) Steve
Fox/ and dozens of others. Balmur also had Cyril produce several Rita McNeil songs
that had been earlier recordings for her, to make them suitable for the Nashville
market.
Cyrils' U.S. cuts to date include: Gretchen Wilson
~ "He Ain't Even Cold Yet" on her current release "All Jacked
Up" Reba Mcentire ~ "Secret" from her latest platinum selling
album "Room to Breathe" Keith Urban & The Ranch ~
"Just Some Love" single-in U.S. Jessica Andrews ~ "You Go First"
from her "Heart Shaped World" disc, a single in U.S. Ken
Mellons ~ "He Ain't Even Cold Yet" Ricky Van Shelton ~ "The Best
is Yet to Come" Nancy Sinatra ~ "Crocodile Tears" Barbara
Mandrell ~ "You're all I've Got to Lose" Tanya Tucker ~ "Love
Will" a U.S. single Lorrie Morgan ~ "She Walked Beside the Wagon"
Susy Boggus ~ " Keep Mom and Dad in Love" a US single Hal
Ketchum ~ "Keep Mom and Dad in Love" a US single Daron Norwood
~ "Between the Stones and Jones" Thrasher Shiver ~ " Between the
Stones and Jones" US single Mila Mason ~ "The Strong One" title
cut "the strong one" and single- in U.S. Lisa Brokop & Hal Ketchum
~ "Keep mom and dad in love" single U.S. Janie Fricke ~ "Old Feeling
'bout a New Love" Allision Paige ~ "If Love is a Weakness" Bobby
Eakes ~ "Only When/ While You Were Out" and others.
Cyril has also had
over 200 songs recorded by Canadian artists including: Anne Murray
Alannah Myles Diane Chase including her next single
"Hearts don't think like that" Johnny Reid - new single "Time
Flies" Patricia Conroy - 2006 upcoming release "The end of the
Day" Thomas Wade 1997 CCMA's Independent song of the year for
"Lying here with you" Lisa Brokop 1999 Independent
song of the year at the CCMA for "Something Undeniable" John
Landry, Colleen Peterson Quartette to name a few.
Along with his stellar
"cut" history he has also had the pleasure of writing with : Alan
Jackson Keith Urban Richie Macdonald (Lonestar)
Dan Hill (Sometimes When we Touch) John Capek
(Rhythm of the Heart) Don Pfrimmer (Keep the Home Fires Burning/Love
Without Mercy/All I Want is a Life/ Meet in the Middle/Front Porch
Looking In/Mr. Mom and many more) Billy Lawson (I left something
turned on at home) Deric Ruttan Johnny Reid Aaron
Pritchett Daryl Burgess Ron Harbin (Mr. Mom/ What
About Now) Lisa Brokop Steve Fox Dean
McTaggart Christopher Ward (Black Velvet) Alannah
Myles and many others…
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